tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post5710983500414088398..comments2024-03-27T19:54:34.479+00:00Comments on Falling On A Bruise: Hunting Ban Not WorkingFalling on a bruisehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05518409624331248084noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-8493110766636721672008-10-25T17:20:00.000+01:002008-10-25T17:20:00.000+01:00Hmm, how to explain the term tosser.It is an insul...Hmm, how to explain the term tosser.<BR/>It is an insult and means someone who is rather self obsessed and egotistical.Falling on a bruisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518409624331248084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-42335122161931167002008-10-25T09:31:00.000+01:002008-10-25T09:31:00.000+01:00I take it 'tosser' is an insult in the UK. I hope...I take it 'tosser' is an insult in the UK. I hope so, and I share that sentiment in this case.Stephen Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15645889989231723542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-18377646767351412282008-10-24T08:02:00.000+01:002008-10-24T08:02:00.000+01:00That's right. Foxes (particularly mangy London one...That's right. Foxes (particularly mangy London ones) taste terrible!Cheezyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176170186766506070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-88347286088058112682008-10-22T21:11:00.000+01:002008-10-22T21:11:00.000+01:00Lucy,fair enough. though I never claimed to be doi...Lucy,<BR/><BR/>fair enough. though I never claimed to be doing the animals a favor. i don't kill them for the sake of killing. i do actually eat the things i kill...<BR/><BR/>from what i've read about fox hunting, it does not sit well with me...<BR/><BR/>QAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-20502114544631456352008-10-22T18:36:00.000+01:002008-10-22T18:36:00.000+01:00Big difference between an animal dying by accident...Big difference between an animal dying by accident or at the paws/talons of a predator killing to survuive and one being killed for a bit of sport.<BR/>The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable is the phrase the sabs use and sums it up nicely.<BR/>We have had this discussion before when debating hunting (this is about bloodsports which has a subtle difference that it is supposedly seen as a sport but the outcome is the same) and i still don't buy the argument that you are doing an animal a favour by killing it before it has chance to get eaten, run over or die of hunger.Falling on a bruisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518409624331248084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-60313259927601276782008-10-22T17:05:00.000+01:002008-10-22T17:05:00.000+01:00Lucy,So your primary argument is that it is cruel....Lucy,<BR/><BR/>So your primary argument is that it is cruel. Right?<BR/><BR/>If that is your main point (only one I see) then how do you define cruel and in what context. I ask for context because if they are not brutally murdered by humans most animals die in one of these ways:<BR/>- hit by a car<BR/>- slowly and agonizingly die of starvation after months<BR/>- die slowly and agonizingly due to disease over a period of weeks or months (significant pain killers are fairly rare in nature)<BR/>- become so weak that buzzards eat them alive (buzzards will eat dead animals, but they will also eat live animals if they are defenseless)<BR/>- become so weak that they are eaten alive by fire ants (this may not happen in Europe, but it happens below the freeze line in north america all the way down to the freeze line in south america)<BR/>- eaten alive by a coyote, owl, bobcat, mountain lion, bear, snake, eagle, hawk, etc. (again, these may be new world perils) <BR/><BR/>I mention these because if any of these were imposed on animals by humans I would think you would call them cruel.<BR/><BR/>How does them being natural make them less cruel?<BR/><BR/>Now, I readily admit that I'm a hunter, but I am against torturing animals (causing them more pain than is associated with the killing - clearly a gun shot causes much pain - but that is not the same as purposely inflicting non-lethal injuries). <BR/><BR/>If one applies human value to all animals, then I agree that killing an animal is cruel. However, I don't think it is more cruel, or even as cruel as nature, and I don't understand the logical application of human value to all animals. Unless, one seeks to remove all pain from the thing we call life... which and admirable but senseless ideal.<BR/><BR/>QAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-45273961093368648062008-10-22T16:05:00.000+01:002008-10-22T16:05:00.000+01:00What Chris said Q, it is cruel, indefensible and p...What Chris said Q, it is cruel, indefensible and people should not be killing animals for 'sport' in this age.Falling on a bruisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518409624331248084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-88877562025651231072008-10-22T05:08:00.000+01:002008-10-22T05:08:00.000+01:00Killing for sport should be eliminated, like badge...Killing for sport should be eliminated, like badger baiting, cock fighting and other obscenities that were once legal, it is a stain on humanity.<BR/>The link between violence towards animals and abuse of people is well established.Chris Galehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13299829193367003485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484626660177622626.post-18122218640568278252008-10-22T01:20:00.000+01:002008-10-22T01:20:00.000+01:00Lucy,Other than it not being to your liking, why d...Lucy,<BR/><BR/>Other than it not being to your liking, why do blood sports NEED to be eliminated?<BR/><BR/>QAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com