It is almost a cold stone certainty that if you get into a debate with a gun loving American they will at some point mumble that much loved refrain that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
That strange defence of guns fell apart today following event's in Las Vegas when the attacker used an automatic weapon to fire from a high hotel room down into a confined crowd of thousands but then that won't stop the second amenders because nothing does.
In a country with a long history of gun violence, if the country couldn't force through changes after the Sandy Hook massacre which ended with 22 dead children, 59 dead country and Western fans won't do it.
If anything a madman running amok with legally owned guns is good for the ghastly business of gun sales as gun manufacturers stock prices tend to rise after similar mass shootings in the past.
After the Orlando and San Bernardino shootings there was a two to three-month surge in firearms sales so explained one TV commenter today pointing out the lunacy that on average 80 people die from gunshot wounds every day in the USA, so far this year, there have been 11,565 gun deaths in the US.
Maybe someone should be asking why this happens with such alarming regularity only in America and how the gun-nuts are able to control the debate where their second amendment rights trumps everything else including their right not to be killed while at a music concert because a sicko was able to legally own and use weapons which are built and designed only to kill as many people as possible.